NAFPS Selections: The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision Pt. 10

[From the New Age Frauds and Plastic Shamans forum, by "Sandy S," July 07, 2014]:

The now suspended povevents.com website, administered by a POV trainer, for several years called Chuck Spezzano "One of the world's leading psychologists."

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 The Truth about Chuck And Lency Spezzano And The Psychology of Vision, Pt. 10

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    Is Chuck Spezzano A Psychologist?

No.

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    If you read Chuck’s resume section on this website, you will know that he holds a Ph.D. in psychology. I have never heard him refer to himself as a psychologist, and we have never advertised him as one, because that would require a psychologist’s license. We don’t edit the promotional material that PoV promoters and Trainers around the world create, as it is primarily in foreign languages. If some have been calling Chuck a psychologist instead of saying that he holds a Ph.D. in psychology, I’m sure it has been brought to their attention now.

Well, you know how that darn Internet works. "Lies can be put on just one blog, and they get shared and re-shared by people looking for material for their own blogs, which then gets shared again and again and again, running up the number of “hits” of viewers. They all feed off of each other for new content to stay competitive."

Lenora actually calls Charles a "psychologist" earlier in this document. That ol' split mind must be acting up again.

Internet also tells us over and over again that Charles has a PhD in "Counseling Psychology," but his thesis is presented as part of the requirements for "Professional Psychology." What's the deal with that?

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    Chuck was still licensed as a Marriage, Family and Child Counselor in California when we set up our office in Hawaii. (There is a slight difference in strategies between Psychologists and Marriage Family and Child Counselors – the latter being committed to short-term intervention.) Chuck’s MFCC license was for California, and Hawaii did not yet offer MFCC licenses. Chuck had already moved on from having a private counseling practice to working internationally as a seminar trainer. The primary benefit for a therapist to be licensed is so that local insurance companies will pay for a certain number of sessions for people who live in your state. To go through this process of “third party payment” generates a lot of paper work, which would require us to hire additional office staff. Since Chuck was not developing a local private practice, and he and I were seminar trainers – which was our calling – we could not see any benefit for him to become licensed as a psychologist in Hawaii.

Yes, plus this way the SALPOV trainers do not have to be held accountable by government regulators. Also, all that nasty bureaucratic overhead from being licensed would mean a smaller profit margin for the Spezzanos.

Given Charles Lee Spezzano's history, I highly doubt he could qualify to be a licensed psychologist in Hawaii without some continuing education other than his 2007 Oneness University experience. His 2004 fine for pretending to be a psychologist might also hurt his chances.

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    Although we will do some private coaching with people around the world, we generally try to steer people to a PoV seminar, if possible, because that is the more cost effective approach for the client. As Trainers, we don’t have the time to accomplish individually what can more easily be accomplished in a group. Our primary interest is what is in the best interest of our clients. As such, sometimes the nature of the issue the person wants to heal seems to them to be too personal to talk about in a group; so for them, the private coaching session is an option.

Private coaching at $1000 an hour. Nice. But it is always more profitable to make stew than serve steak. These two are really a piece of work.

The question among the SALPOV watchers on whether Lenora lives in a world of delusion or is indeed a true con artist remains open.